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  • Shit, this is bad, we have to do something! I know, let’s try to create a new socioeconomic system built on resources and social capital instead of money and competition, that’s our only hope! Oh, that’s right, we’re already doing that…

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  • Zehn Aktivist‎:) there is the one world party and they are only laughing, like we do, about small changes on the political systems.

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  • Vegard Tzm BilsbakDoesn’t matter who you think it is, the solution is the same.

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    no if the nwo will be installed by the same parties that corrupt the democracy now, they will also corrupt the NWO. It would be totally corrupt from the beginning. Would be against the will of the people, a false revolution (guy fakes‘ r errorlution). THe point is, if the secret services and the one worlders is allowed to do this, they will carry on their plan. If you look who is against climate protection, the oil lobby, they are the same party that wants to install the NWO. They block the climate protection now, they willl also do it when we are so stupid to donate them a world government: If the mossad and the zionists, fundamental christians and jews are allowed to carry on the will in the next hundered years completly destroy all the ecosystems, thats absolutely sure. They worked on the completion of their interpretation of the apocalypse the last 2500 years, they would not stop because of some people want to save the earth. Its a illusion. When you watch the Zeistgeist vision… sorry, that old man maybe ment it good but didnt really understand the point. Going further on the path of technology and monotheism, knowning the mind control technology exist and will stay undetectable and unprotectable for normal people, will lead us in complete slavery, where the free will is purged out with technology. And the earth it will lead to total destruction. Thats obvious. To think that some powers will take care, and we can lean back is very naiv. They would just go on fucking us, thats facts. The rich old man are most of the time themself part of the illusion
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  • Zehn AktivistThe situation is extremly bad, and maybe there is no way out, that would mean the earth is already done now. That is because the last 2000 years it was done nothing against the empire (of the roman catholic church and the zionists), because the people was leaning back and trusting powers that told them nasty stories.

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  • Vegard Tzm Bilsbak

    I don’t know how well you have researched resource based economy, but it’s built from the ground up, not from the top down. The ones in charge now will have no control over it. Say what you like about NWO or whatever, they could never take …Mehr anzeigen
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    I have not done lots of research about zeitgeist. I think the problem is that people dont want to accept the working routines of this party. They are since the last 2000 years the best organised, most rustless and most „inhuman“ party on the world, also if they write humanism wide on their banner. They are the most conservatice and reactionary and conterervolutionary party that ever existed. There methods are so perverted and sadistic, that peoples that never crossed their path can not imagine it. They are the creators of satan, the laugh about satan, they are doing things now in real, that are worser than all satans of all universes togheter, destroying planets, build monopols in theology, dont tolerate other gods and other living beeings, simply not toleate them if they dont think like they want to, research inquisition and colonisation, they destroyed about 5000 folks with unique culture and religion. They killed 200 000 000 peoples… They purged out tousends of liveforms on earth, today 20000 lifeforms are dying out.People can not accept is i think its just to much, normal people have no sense of how evil they are and how subtile and perfected their manipulation and conspratorial works is. They point is they already protecetd themself against almost every possibility by prophecie… THey tell us it is said, that if the antichrist comes, then huge damage is done to the christianity, but… in the end the will prevail. It is said, that the jesus is coming back and will bring a long period of peace (in which instead of humans planets are slaughtered by vaticanic contraception prohibitions)- They can transform into islam same as into buddism oder even krishna or other monotheistic beliefs.What ever happens as long as monotheism will exist they will stay their and maniplulate all politics from behind the intolerant religion. They will stay also in case of the zeitgeist vision would come. They will be their manipulate the movements, infiltrate the „democratic“ goverments same as the do now. Addiontal, and i hope you really consider that, there is the technology – The fastest way to save the ecosystems is not by transforming the governments and technology and hope it will work, the fastest and most secure way, is be destroying both, the corrupt government structure AND the technology. I know this story to well, and i really dont want it to happen again… I know exactly what they will tell us,,, uuh it was a good idea with the resource besed economy and the transformation of thecnology but… it took to long or to much parties where blocking it and manipulating everything… we dint catch up now 100 years are gone and we still cound not make something against the destroction of the ecostystems, instead we can now travel to other planets, lets kill them too.
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  • Zehn Aktivist

    Additionally and i hope you consider that, they now have technology to manipulate every thoughts you have, every feeling and every personality structure of every beeing on the planet, even insects, maybe the are lucky that the party does not care about them so much as they care about us. As long as the technology exists, there are people that will use it. Which means you do one false thought in the next time, i guarantee you, that the will come with the brain reserarchers and biogenerators, and blow your last good feeling out of your aura… i guarantee you that. Without a major change that prohibits intolerant religions or religions that are against nature, and also destoys the TECHNOLOGY and the monopols… they will fuck all of us and all of our children
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  • Zehn Aktivistwe are in a situation where we make one false movements and we are all dead, same as the earth

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  • Adrian DvergsdalRelax, „they“ too want to survive, so „they“ will not destroy the earth just yet. We, the people, have the power – if only everyone had the knowledge!

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  • Zehn Aktivistjust yet, i dont care when the want to do it. THey want to do it, what means every second with them alive is mind blowing

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  • Zehn Aktivistand „“““they“““““ are the most powerfull party on the planet so please wake up accept the facts and open your eyes, you first need some microwave beams? Imagine the purgeout of your personality and you can not do nothing against it is done by technology that reaches you in every corner of the earth, every cave, even high up in the air or water…

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  • Zehn Aktivistit has zero ping and they say the can also reach you on the moon without ping, what the fuck you want to do now? Leaning back and watching the stars? If they and their technology doesnt gets destoryed its over forever, say byebye to your „free“ thoughts, it maybe that this are your last thoughts ever, when they are finished with you, you will not call that thinking.

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  • Zehn Aktivistits not some kindergarten illuminati one single order. They are everyware around you, maybe you even yourself are one of them. They are in your TV your magazine, your school, your work, in your computer, every book you open is about them or from them, you can not do one single step on this planet without getting involved with them.

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  • Adrian Dvergsdal Please stop for a minute and breathe. Now think about where you have gotten your information. Is it even reliable? Now watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

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    A look at some of the flawed thinking that prompts people who believe in certain non-scientific concepts to advise others who don’t to be more open-minded. m…
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  • Zehn Aktivisti have this information by myself reserached over the last 20 years. On the blog if you can german you will find dozens of links that lead you directly to the pages where the real information are published. That is not information you find on youtube… THERE IS NOT ONE DOCUMENTATION about prophecy and the terror of this party. NOT ONE SINGLE DOCUMENTATION. because this is so maybe one of the biggest secrets of the vatican. You find the information there are the 7th day adventists that cover parts of it, and there are the churchcritics that cover parts of it BUT THERE IS NOT ONE DOCUMENTATION THAT DOCUMENTS ALL THE CRIMES DONE BY THEM in combination WITH THEIR PROPHECY. And that is what would need to be done for the people to understand, that they want systematically and planned to destory all life on earth.

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  • Zehn AktivistThere is also wolfgang eggert, he explains parts of the issue prophecy-monotheistisc terror, but thats it… and there is not one beatifully made documentation about this like zeitgeist or arrivals or alex jones… its obvious that they are eighter extremly bad informated or they are desinfo agents

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  • Zehn Aktivistwhat do you think when someone reserached 20 years about the vatican you can not counter his arguments with things like biased or gnosticism or obejctive/subjective tryings. This are facts, that are proven by historical evidence, and it are not just some evidence, we are in marching through a swamp of evidences and my opinion: everyone that keeps denying is part of the coverup

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  • Zehn Aktivist this is were the intellectual supremacy of the gnostics ends, when it comes to clean up the dirt in front of the own monotheistic door…

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  • Vegard Tzm BilsbakShit, this is bad, we have to do something! I know, let’s try to create a new socioeconomic system built on resources and social capital instead of money and competition, that’s our only hope! Oh, that’s right, we’re already doing that…

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  • Zehn Aktivist‎:) there is the one world party and they are only laughing, like we do, about small changes on the political systems.

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  • Vegard Tzm BilsbakDoesn’t matter who you think it is, the solution is the same.

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  • Zehn Aktivistno if the nwo will be installed by the same parties that corrupt the democracy now, they will also corrupt the NWO. It would be totally corrupt from the beginning. Would be against the will of the people, a false revolution (guy fakes‘ r errorlution). THe point is, if the secret services and the one worlders is allowed to do this, they will carry on their plan. If you look who is against climate protection, the oil lobby, they are the same party that wants to install the NWO. They block the climate protection now, they willl also do it when we are so stupid to donate them a world government: If the mossad and the zionists, fundamental christians and jews are allowed to carry on the will in the next hundered years completly destroy all the ecosystems, thats absolutely sure. They worked on the completion of their interpretation of the apocalypse the last 2500 years, they would not stop because of some people want to save the earth. Its a illusion. When you watch the Zeistgeist vision… sorry, that old man maybe ment it good but didnt really understand the point. Going further on the path of technology and monotheism, knowning the mind control technology exist and will stay undetectable and unprotectable for normal people, will lead us in complete slavery, where the free will is purged out with technology. And the earth it will lead to total destruction. Thats obvious. To think that some powers will take care, and we can lean back is very naiv. They would just go on fucking us, thats facts. The rich old man are most of the time themself part of the illusion

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  • Zehn AktivistThe situation is extremly bad, and maybe there is no way out, that would mean the earth is already done now. That is because the last 2000 years it was done nothing against the empire (of the roman catholic church and the zionists), because the people was leaning back and trusting powers that told them nasty stories.

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  • Vegard Tzm BilsbakI don’t know how well you have researched resource based economy, but it’s built from the ground up, not from the top down. The ones in charge now will have no control over it. Say what you like about NWO or whatever, they could never take over something like Linux. As long as things are grass roots and open source, those behind the NWO conspiracy, whether it’s real or not, have no way of stopping the transition to a resource based economy. They can slow it down, shure, but when people just realize in what direction we have to move, nothing can stop it.

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  • Zehn AktivistI have not done lots of research about zeitgeist. I think the problem is that people dont want to accept the working routines of this party. They are since the last 2000 years the best organised, most rustless and most „inhuman“ party on the world, also if they write humanism wide on their banner. They are the most conservatice and reactionary and conterervolutionary party that ever existed. There methods are so perverted and sadistic, that peoples that never crossed their path can not imagine it. They are the creators of satan, the laugh about satan, they are doing things now in real, that are worser than all satans of all universes togheter, destroying planets, build monopols in theology, dont tolerate other gods and other living beeings, simply not toleate them if they dont think like they want to, research inquisition and colonisation, they destroyed about 5000 folks with unique culture and religion. They killed 200 000 000 peoples… They purged out tousends of liveforms on earth, today 20000 lifeforms are dying out.People can not accept is i think its just to much, normal people have no sense of how evil they are and how subtile and perfected their manipulation and conspratorial works is. They point is they already protecetd themself against almost every possibility by prophecie… THey tell us it is said, that if the antichrist comes, then huge damage is done to the christianity, but… in the end the will prevail. It is said, that the jesus is coming back and will bring a long period of peace (in which instead of humans planets are slaughtered by vaticanic contraception prohibitions)- They can transform into islam same as into buddism oder even krishna or other monotheistic beliefs.What ever happens as long as monotheism will exist they will stay their and maniplulate all politics from behind the intolerant religion. They will stay also in case of the zeitgeist vision would come. They will be their manipulate the movements, infiltrate the „democratic“ goverments same as the do now. Addiontal, and i hope you really consider that, there is the technology – The fastest way to save the ecosystems is not by transforming the governments and technology and hope it will work, the fastest and most secure way, is be destroying both, the corrupt government structure AND the technology. I know this story to well, and i really dont want it to happen again… I know exactly what they will tell us,,, uuh it was a good idea with the resource besed economy and the transformation of thecnology but… it took to long or to much parties where blocking it and manipulating everything… we dint catch up now 100 years are gone and we still cound not make something against the destroction of the ecostystems, instead we can now travel to other planets, lets kill them too.

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  • Zehn AktivistAdditionally and i hope you consider that, they now have technology to manipulate every thoughts you have, every feeling and every personality structure of every beeing on the planet, even insects, maybe the are lucky that the party does not care about them so much as they care about us. As long as the technology exists, there are people that will use it. Which means you do one false thought in the next time, i guarantee you, that the will come with the brain reserarchers and biogenerators, and blow your last good feeling out of your aura… i guarantee you that. Without a major change that prohibits intolerant religions or religions that are against nature, and also destoys the TECHNOLOGY and the monopols… they will fuck all of us and all of our children

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  • Zehn Aktivistwe are in a situation where we make one false movements and we are all dead, same as the earth

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  • Adrian DvergsdalRelax, „they“ too want to survive, so „they“ will not destroy the earth just yet. We, the people, have the power – if only everyone had the knowledge!

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  • Zehn Aktivistjust yet, i dont care when the want to do it. THey want to do it, what means every second with them alive is mind blowing

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  • Zehn Aktivistand „“““they“““““ are the most powerfull party on the planet so please wake up accept the facts and open your eyes, you first need some microwave beams? Imagine the purgeout of your personality and you can not do nothing against it is done by technology that reaches you in every corner of the earth, every cave, even high up in the air or water…

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  • Zehn Aktivistit has zero ping and they say the can also reach you on the moon without ping, what the fuck you want to do now? Leaning back and watching the stars? If they and their technology doesnt gets destoryed its over forever, say byebye to your „free“ thoughts, it maybe that this are your last thoughts ever, when they are finished with you, you will not call that thinking.

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  • Zehn Aktivistits not some kindergarten illuminati one single order. They are everyware around you, maybe you even yourself are one of them. They are in your TV your magazine, your school, your work, in your computer, every book you open is about them or from them, you can not do one single step on this planet without getting involved with them.

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  • Adrian Dvergsdal Please stop for a minute and breathe. Now think about where you have gotten your information. Is it even reliable? Now watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

    www.youtube.com

    A look at some of the flawed thinking that prompts people who believe in certain…Mehr anzeigen
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  • Zehn Aktivisti have this information by myself reserached over the last 20 years. On the blog if you can german you will find dozens of links that lead you directly to the pages where the real information are published. That is not information you find on youtube… THERE IS NOT ONE DOCUMENTATION about prophecy and the terror of this party. NOT ONE SINGLE DOCUMENTATION. because this is so maybe one of the biggest secrets of the vatican. You find the information there are the 7th day adventists that cover parts of it, and there are the churchcritics that cover parts of it BUT THERE IS NOT ONE DOCUMENTATION THAT DOCUMENTS ALL THE CRIMES DONE BY THEM in combination WITH THEIR PROPHECY. And that is what would need to be done for the people to understand, that they want systematically and planned to destory all life on earth.

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  • Zehn AktivistThere is also wolfgang eggert, he explains parts of the issue prophecy-monotheistisc terror, but thats it… and there is not one beatifully made documentation about this like zeitgeist or arrivals or alex jones… its obvious that they are eighter extremly bad informated or they are desinfo agents

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  • Zehn Aktivistwhat do you think when someone reserached 20 years about the vatican you can not counter his arguments with things like biased or gnosticism or obejctive/subjective tryings. This are facts, that are proven by historical evidence, and it are not just some evidence, we are in marching through a swamp of evidences and my opinion: everyone that keeps denying is part of the coverup

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  • Zehn Aktivistthis is were the intellectual supremacy of the gnostics ends, when it comes to clean up the dirt in front of the own monotheistic door…

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  • Sigurd B. StensethThis sounds like bigotry at its finest. You are unwilling to listen to any counterarguments, you’ve got several facts (about the zeitgeist movement) wrong, and you have so far not provided any proof to back what you’re saying other than an arbitrary „I’ve done lots of research“. Considering what you’ve already said, you’re probably gonna say that I am one of „them“ now. It’s pretty silly and predictable really.

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  • Marius AlexanderI cant be bothered reading anything but these are facts: Yes, of course one wants to modify the ecosystem, why? Because by destroying natural strains by modifying the ecosystem/weather conditions they will own the only foodstrains that are resistant = All foods that grow will be patented, owned and controlled. All fresh water sources will be owned. All of our planet which was free for all of us will be owned and we would have to pay or be slaves so we can cover our basic needs. This is the ultimate goal of global capitalism, together with a centralized state and the implementation of an electronic currency which will mean total control and total surveillance. The only way this won’t happen is if people act, but you might have to risk comfort for freedom. :p

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  • Marius AlexanderPS. release all Vatican library files for all the public to read and interpret!

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  • Marius AlexanderLol btw. had to read the article ^^

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  • Marius Alexander‎“They want to destroy the world to spread dominance to other planets“ hahahah. I have heard another theory as well: they are alien offspring/reptillian and want to change the atmosphere so they can live here. ^^ Id rather see it like this: what better way to instigate conflict and initiate an agenda for a global reform than by belief in and fear of an apocalypse? The US are milking it for all its worth in their imperialistic crusade right now so..

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  • Zehn Aktivist i believe they can not use this information, because it are too specific jewish, christian, imperialistic issues. The prophecy is so sensible, I believe they can not turn it, and if they try it would look like kindergarten. Also they would promote one of their biggests secrects. You find more information about the vatican in this group https://www.facebook.com/groups/300987723278467/

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  • Marius AlexanderI piss on prophecies. Instruments of control which are designed to make people think their efforts are futile.

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  • Zehn Aktivistprophecy is the smoking gun in their hand. It was done to give the people the „destination“ and make them unconscious. its was one of the major mind control instruments, that only relies on indoctrination and illusion. There is also one book from a person, that copied nostradamus after his dead. I believe the goal of this person, or group that stood behind this ominous „son“ of nostradamus (its unsure), was to compromise nostradamus and the conspiracy. This person copied nostradamus but wrote books with titles like „prophecie or revolution“. This person then died, predicting a fire in a town, as the fire didnt start from itself, this person went into the town and spread the fire by itself. I believe he died to send the message to the people, to give us another evidence in a long chain, that nostradamus and vatican are only doing false prophecy and fullfill it by their own terror, to give the peole the feeling that the prophecies are the will of god. The repeat that hypnotically in all the prophetic writings.

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  • Zehn Aktivistthe persons name was mi. de nostradamus le jeune (in comparison to michel de notredame or nostradamus)

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  • Zehn Aktivist‎“This sounds like bigotry at its finest. You are unwilling to listen to any counterarguments, you’ve got several facts (about the zeitgeist movement) wrong, and you have so far not provided any proof to back what you’re saying other than an arbitrary „I’ve done lots of research“. Considering what you’ve already said, you’re probably gonna say that I am one of „them“ now. It’s pretty silly and predictable really.“ You are a desinfo agent hahahaIt may be true, that i dont researched zeitgeist to the ground, but when they started about talking about with how many billiards of humans the want to proove when the ecostystems collaps, i switched off. To talk about world politics and leave follwing behind is dangerous:
    – what ever we do, if we are so stupid to mean that we dont need to reduce the overpopulation, it will kill the planet

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  • Zehn Aktivist ‎- second is the prophecy, why isnt it a issue? Its the smoking gun in their hand, and if one uses it, it will destroy maybe the whole conspiratorial pary
    – And then the monotheism, isnt it the problem, that the intolance is the basis of this religion, by saying we dont believe in your gods, and if you dont believe in ours we kill you and torture you? And this is done right now in this moment to thousends and millions
    – and then the mind control technology, its obvious, the will keep working on it, keeping it secret and perfect it, as long as they can. And as long as this pseudo science exists and the knowledge about the technology the will use it, its for sure, the secret servies, that mean people like me, that spread „truth“ are tortured their whole life with something that changes their personality and their Brain(!) and they cant do a shit against: the end of free will with technology. What the monotheistis started with prophecy, the atheists are perfecting with technology, and dont believe they dont work on the same thing

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  • Marius Alexanderof course overpopulation is an issue, but overproduction and overconsuming is a bigger problem. Especially since we produce more than we consume in the west, just so the huge corporations can keep up with growth and maximizing their profits. Most people depicting a dystopian future whenever in the past is a „prophet“ on another issue, Jesus is a good example of someone who tried to change the path of our human behaviours, but then again, the system we are under today made quite a good example of such dangerous individuals seeking freedom and equality.

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  • Zehn Aktivistits all about one thing: It is a war against the nature, that is now older than 2000 years. Against nature in all its aspects. Indigenous peoples like the saami are struggeling since 1500 years with this party… 1500 years cultual purgeout, war, children are been token away an christianised, their religion is purged out. And now thing at the european folks, their religion, culture and identity was totally purged out in 2000 years inquisition and monotheism. Its a war against natural religion, real religion, the magics of the poor people and the nature that makes it possible. When one would make a TV documentation about all this things, what you think will happen than? This is the whole story, what the peoples are telling are little puzzle parts, giving it to you and then channel the energies on parties that dont have something to do with it, like the channeling on the illuminati or satan or even pagans. I mean, that is so evil to do something with peoples, and then in the end blame themselfes for it, thats just to much, the kill the planet and say it were the pagans.

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  • Marius AlexanderWe need to see prophecies as nonapplicable, but use foresight by reflecting on our actions in the present to avoid our worst case scenarios. But things like prophecies make efforts seem meaningles. Yes, any system which dictates thought and opinion is a fascist system. No humans have the right to dictate. Mind control is definitely being developed, from soundwave manipulation, radiowave frequencies manipulating our vibrations and with more implementation of devices and chips we have to carry aroud alse electronic manipulation of our physical and emotional processes. You on the other hand need to realize the enemy has no nationality, allegiance or spiritually based belief.

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  • Marius AlexanderIts not a war against nature as such. Nature is a casualty. BUT that being said, our human nature and what is natural about existence is being taken away by forces who want to dominate and control. „architects“ – masons, who want order out of chaos. But nature is chaos.

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  • Zehn Aktivist‎“is a good example of someone who tried to change the path of our human behaviours, but then again, the system we are under today made quite a go“ you see the problem is, that you are youself christians and dont want to accept all these facts, because you are… That is maybe one of the biggest problems, because you are bound by their propaganda of the last 2000 years, you cant even really do something against them, because you cannot use most of the facts and evidence

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  • Marius AlexanderI am not christian, I am not atheist, I refuse to let you try and label me.

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  • Zehn Aktivistyou dont even want, and thats the problem, you could not look at it and would put it under the carpet, because they control your whole worldview and innerst ghoststances

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  • Marius Alexanderwtf?

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  • Zehn Aktivistthen why are you promoting jesus?

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  • Marius AlexanderAm I promoting Jesus or am I saying that the story of Jesus is an example set by the roman state by institutionalizing chritianity and using the story as a discouragement to try and oppose the state or the institution by standing against it demanding justice and equality for all?

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  • Marius Alexanderand then for all future making sure noone thinks they can do it on their own, and that we are waiting for this one person wholl free us when we are enough people to create change if we dont segregate into these labels you are so willing and able to dish out?

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  • Zehn Aktivistthat is exactly it, your post really speaks it out very beatifully „We need to see prophecies as nonapplicable, but use foresight by reflecting on our actions in the present to avoid our worst case scenarios. But things like prophecies make efforts seem meaningles. “

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  • Marius AlexanderIm satisfied with the fact you now understood my point 🙂

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  • Zehn Aktivisti believe, they leave no other choice, that to prohibit the monotheistic religion, prohibit monopols and technology, living in tribes, completly decentralised with some rules that make it possible to completly destroy this party

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  • Marius AlexanderIm not into segregation. But I am against sentralizing power, actually, Im against the hierarchy. Make all governments and services administrative and the people in power. Also, let every man believe what he likes and practice his lifestyle as he will as long as it does not impose or negatively affect on others. Then I am for open boarders, open market with extremly tight regulations on corporations and the wealthiest only, and sharing the worlds resources distributed equally. This is only fair.

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  • Zehn Aktivistyes. I think it really is a approach, but i dont believe it will work longterm. When the tide is sinking and in the end returning, they will tell us, uuh we are sorry, we did everything you told us, its not our fault, but it took to long, we could not transform the economics and the sturtures fast enough, now all life on earth is dead, we are sorry… can happen next planet…

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  • Zehn Aktivistits important that we in the mind play through every possibility, ok. We have a party on the planet that is using ONLY conspratorial doings to control the whole world politics. Now you want to create some sort of states, that are „transparent“, in the peoples power with some sort of direct democracy, and lots of changes to to the governmental structure.

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  • Marius AlexanderWell the fact is that theyll do what they want. Theyve had the technology for ages, but as long as they earn money on our natural resources they will milk it till its dry. They dont give a fuck about people or the earth or the future other than the agenda for expanding control. I dont think it is „one party“, I believe the same families that have owned and controlled the land and corporations and banks not necesseraly have the same interests or sharing these interests, but meet like the Bildeberg meetings so they can discuss their megalomaniac plans. Transparency is DEFINITELY a must. I want to see exactly who profits!!!!!

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  • Marius AlexanderThe usual reply to any fair and just system is „I dont think it is possible“. And usually because „people are egotistical, its in our nature“. I mean, do I only talk to egotistical assholes or is this conditioned thought?

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  • Zehn Aktivistimageine we make glass houses and put the politicians inside, and everyone that wants to can inspect them, can control them and try to put them away. They will answer with monopols and strong parties inside the people that are manipulated by them with money, like the tea party. The will stay completly invisible and secret, but they will keep doing what they do. If there is only one part of the government, that does not need to apply to this transparency, they will control all the other goverments over the consensus, the unity and the big parties. The consensus will not be decided by the goverments or the peoples it will be decided by the corrupt party. If there is only one part of the government that does not need to apply to complete transparency, not one secret allowed, they will control the whole government from inside of that. I think its not possible to fight this kind of perfected think-tank with this methods, they will use technology to communicate and hide behind monotheism like they do now

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  • Marius AlexanderYes, but that doesnt mean we shouldnt impose regulation and demand transparency. I mean, I dont just wanna know what companies or funds that benefit, I wanna know every single shareholder, every single donor, every single individual who in any shape or form is able to benefit of policies.

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  • Marius AlexanderIf normal people would be able to see the pattern of corruption they wouldnt be kissing ass and defending their authorities.

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  • Zehn AktivistSun Tzu said, that the most important rule in war is, to know yourself better and to know the enemy better as he does. They know that since 1200 years. If you dont know your enemy and he does its quite for sure, you will lose. so, you first need to understand the enemy, and that is done by understanding what i tell you in the blog. The vatican and the zionists joined 1500 in the time of nostradamus, that was himself a high rank zionist messianic descent. Now, this party ruled always, the vatican, the last 1700 years. Then we go to the french revolution, segregation of church and state, didnt happen was manipulated by them, their answer was to go in the underground and just use secret services secret orders and terror to control the politics… they are still in power. thats maybe the most important thin that the people start to understand this. i mean evangelicals are coming telling our children mandkind is 4000 years old and came with a ufo to the earth. soon we will believe again the earth is a disk, i tell you that.

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  • Zehn Aktivistwe are in a religioulous war right now, a war to protect israel, for the jewish and christian religions. a crusade. what else you need to believe that this conspiracy is acting for the monotheism, and the monotheism is their creation… its a tool to destroy the peoples power through natural religion and the strength of the people that comes from it

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  • Marius AlexanderI am for enlightening the people as a whole and total sharing of information, liberating the mind. I believe these centurylong myths of control is to mystify and make seem all too powerful what simply is the elite of the world. Yes they have been around for long, thats becaus humans since the first states after tribalism have been used to rule under kings, dynasties and stately powers. Now we realize more and more that no man has the right to „own“ or „control“ anything or anyone, especially our planet. But we are being fought against as they desperately cling to these old ways of division between „them“ (the wealth – banks/landowners/royalty/owners of all the global coorporations, other words, the old money) and „us“, people of the earth. We have bought into their illusion that their constructs are real.

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  • Marius AlexanderIt is a war under the cover of religion, but these are arguments used only to rally people behind their agendas, its not actually about religion at all, its about dominance, a game of risk, where Israel hold some sort of strategic advantage.

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  • Marius AlexanderI for one wouldnt mind if a tidal wave put all of israel under water, of course with the entire population evacuated 🙂

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  • Zehn Aktivistif the dont get destroyed the kill the earth, they want it. I found this out and since i know it they are hunting me and torturing my with their mind control technology. i must tell the people this. They want it because the humanity would be forced to travel to other planets, and the want this technology. if the dont get destroyed they will do it, and to destroy them we must understand them.

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  • Zehn Aktivistits not possible otherwise, sun tzu said, the one will win that uses the art of war against one that doesnt. Its nearly impossible.

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  • Marius AlexanderOk, I have very strong doubts that you are being hunted and tortured by mind control technology. What you might be experiencing could be the fact that you’re getting a migraine from watching the computer screen ^^

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  • Marius AlexanderAlthough, any correspondance you have had with the secret police I would love to see, please link.

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  • Marius AlexanderSun Tzu is usually quoted by alphamale psychopaths and sociopaths ^^

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  • Zehn Aktivistno since 10 years with silent sound technology, chipping, gang stalking, gas lightning, hypnosis, trauma based mind control and lots of other stuff-.-

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  • Marius Alexanderso, you have a chip?

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  • Zehn Aktivistits a fact you can beat a huge army with a very small if you use it and he doesnt

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  • Marius Alexanderyouve been traumatized and hypnotized by these guys? ^^

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  • Marius Alexanderfeeling tempted to post facepalm pic, sorry 😀

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  • Zehn Aktivisti dont know this, because i cannot trust anyone of them, there is a war going on, and i decided to take part and it run over me like a train

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  • Zehn Aktivistits not possible to proove for me so far, spectrum analyser consts 60 000 $

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  • Marius AlexanderIf you want to be effective and have a pure vision you need to snap out of it and stop being paranoid and in fear.

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  • Marius AlexanderSo what, you’ll die, so will all of us 🙂

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  • Zehn Aktivistwhen i got into it, i started to understand things, that you cant right now, because the train didnt ran over you

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  • Marius AlexanderHow do you know your perspective is better or more evolved than mine?

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  • Zehn Aktivist if i would not be such a victim how should i know this information, it would be a huge coincidance, that i know both the vatican things and the mind control things, and this is the most detailed page over the issue in the last 10 years, i was tooken down 2 years ago. https://echterevolution.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/silent-sounds-mind-control-zum-100-000sten/ http://web.archive.org/web/20110518192900/http://www.raven1.net/

    echterevolution.wordpress.com

    Die Technologie “Silent Sounds” wenden sie bei mir jetzt seit ziemlich genau 10 …Mehr anzeigen
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  • Marius Alexander You must have a high opinion of yourself if you think you know something new and not just regurgitating things Ive read many times the last 10 years or so. Apparently you are so unique you want a spectrum analyzer ^^Sorry man, I just get this image in my head of you when you say that: http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/17757.jpg

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  • Marius AlexanderOrganized stalking, Cointelpro and silent sounds are ancient news

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  • Zehn Aktivisti dont say its better or stuff you just didnt get fucked up by secret service and the academic complex with its brain reserachers and the pharma industrie, their nice little 10000 mind control programs, that can purge every feeling out of your body, and purgeout your whole personalioty…

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  • Marius Alexandertho very important, not gon take that away

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  • Zehn Aktivistwatche the second link i posted the wayback machine, there is on the whole internet now more detailed documentation of the mind control technology

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  • Marius Alexanderwell, not really, but they can make people who are not easily conformed to the robotic norm into subcitizens, forcing ritalin and other drugs on them and making sure the public themselves freeze these individuals out of society

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  • Zehn Aktivistas i said you will lose terribily if you dont want to know them

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  • Marius AlexanderName them

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  • Zehn Aktivistmonotheistic party with elite and sheeples

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  • Marius Alexanderwho? you are being chased because you have sussed them out, who specifically are „they“?

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  • Zehn AktivistYes i came behind that they are fullfilling their own prophecies by terror, maybe 15 years ago, also i started more to get in spirituality and magic, what the in the public detest and punish, its unclear which part really was the reason for the torture

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  • Marius AlexanderYesyes, so have I and hundreds of thousands of people. But I ask again, what information do you exclusively hold, and again, name some names or specific organisations tied to this

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  • Zehn Aktivistit would not be honest to tell some orders, if the are all in on it, protestant killing and missioning in india same as the catholics, protestants kill magicians the last 500 years same as catholics, and on top of them always was the judaism as sort of mother religion. I can tell you which orders are the most participating in this, opus dei, jesuits, franziscans, dominicans the messianic orders of judaism, all messianic orders. freemasons, cross of malta, the knights orders

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  • Zehn Aktivisthigh grade freemasonry, they are some sort the connection between judaism, the english crown and the vatican

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  • Zehn Aktivistthe exclusive information is that the fullfill their own prophecies with terror and conspiracy, and this since the tora was written…

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  • Zehn Aktivistnostradamus just wrote some shit in it like the history backwards explained and put in the future, events always repeat themselves kings are going down, wars are fought… Then conspiracy just takes this „notes“ verses and puts their parallels into events that the make themselves by terror. Lets say the look in nostradamus ok, we need a cathalitic event, then they look, of here that could be a verse that matches, then the bring out some other faked evidence like lost books or pictures, that they fake, and tell a look here we have the tower that is burning, nostradamus did forsee 9/11. With this they concentrate the people behind them giving them a wonder, and can say it was by the will of god, also it gives them a justification to fight the war, because it is all in the will of their god…

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  • Sigurd B. Stenseth Man, you have several good points, but they’re drowning in your paranoia and bigotry. You’re focusing way too much on some single, monotheistic „party“ that is supposedly controlling the world. Yes, the world is being controlled. Yes, the people who control it have not a care for how the earth is faring. But, like Marius said, religion is just a cover. I highly doubt that any of the people on top give a single flying fuck about some „god“. All they want is power. They achieve this by exploiting the current monetary system and peoples conditioned gullibility. This is why we want a resource based economy. It would be a paradigm shift. It would be impossible for the ones on top to continue to exude control in such a system, seeing as it would be built from the ground up. Politics, religion and opinions would have no place in such a system, as it would be maintained on a factual basis. There would be no governments, no countries, no borders. You say that you can’t be arsed to read up on the Zeitgeist movement. This is problematic and sadly very common. Most of the stuff you and a lot of people I have debated with present as problems have a solution that is part of the concept of RBE. Please, for the love of god (just an expression, I on no level believe in god, I am agnostic (which is the scientific way, really (I believe in nothing until it can be proven))), just read the FAQ, I’ll link to it and everything. It is long, but I think a lot of your problems have already been solved. http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/faq

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  • Zehn Aktivistthe end of the agnostic supremacy of the intellect has come when they need to clean up the dirt in front of their own door. I read this later, sorry afk

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  • Marius AlexanderSelf sufficiency and reclaiming the earths resources would be a big kick up the ass on this „party“ whos aim is to own everything and use humans as pure industrial batteries in a machine benefiting only the ones who run it

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  • Marius AlexanderAll I have to say for starters is: Legalize

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  • Zehn Aktivist

    the solutions for everything are already here and they are working 100%. That is the indigenous way, its absolutely obvious that this would for sure balance everything. And that it is the most save way too. you are playing with fire, its a good approach, but i dont think you know in what situation you are. They hide behind technology same as behind the monotheistic religions and will as long as they exists from behind that control and manipulate, this leaded to the death of 200 000 000 peoples and so on i dont need to tell you in what poor condition the earth is after 2000 years christianity and they can do what they want and mind control peoples and take their beliefs and religion and magics and everything that made them strong… Its just criminal to hold on the monotheism and the absoluty claim, you just want to understand, agnostics are monotheists themselves, you dont want to understand that this absoluty claim in religion is the reason for the separation and intolerance worldwide, the indigenous getting raped and torured since years, they are not here to speak out, if the could they woul tell you guys the following: its criminal to hold on monotheism and technology and every laws you want to put on them will be bashed away, you know by what some little childs running around with Guy Fawkes masks, the gloficytion of a mass murder on peoples like you that want to put laws on them.
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  • Marius AlexanderI dont think you understand. I reckognize no authority, private ownership of earthly goods and land and no seperation between humans. You on the other hand talk condescending towards people based on a belief that you somehow know something I havent already heard before, tho more eloquently so.

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  • Zehn Aktivist

    also tell me one thing, when the whole production planet is automatised and we eat synthetic food in normised form, when peoples dont work anymore, what will happen to them? Do you want some more degenarted criminals on the streets? The childs what they learn? To sit around the whole day and pick the nose? They will degenerate to some sort of sheep herd, give them a playstation and the are happy and a microchip that makes them amendable, then 14 billairds of them or how many overpopulation you target? It is a very dangerous game all this, i told you want the problems are, and i dont believe they are possible to handle, and what would be the consequence? The end of all life on earth? Not with me, i go the save way
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  • Marius AlexanderYou told me? Bitch please, you just recycled my statemenst from like 30 posts ago. Not only do you not comprehend what others are saying, but you are locked in your own opinion making you blind. Thats prob why youll find people unwilling to have a discussion with you generally.

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  • Marius AlexanderOther people have insight, dont let the information you accumulate get to your head.

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  • Zehn Aktivist

    theoretically we speek for the same thing, but i want to destroy them, and you seem to partially hold on on them. Monotheism can stay, technology can stay, cities will stay, industry will stay, that goes on and on in the end you dont really change the important parts, and that is to make it impossible for them to further destroy the ecostystems, that means birth control at least, do you have that? No… that are my problems with this. The risk is just to high that the corrupt your movement same as everything else and we end up in a police state as the predicted, if they need 500 years or 50 years to accomplish they dont care.
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  • Zehn AktivistHold on technology and they communicate worldwide… you mean you can destroy them when they can simultanely control 60% of the humans, every democaracy is a simple joke against this, every effort you do, just makes them stronger

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  • Zehn Aktivistfirst they create a consensus against the separation of church and state, with the monopol of thinking they cancel every effort

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  • Sigurd B. Stenseth

    Far from it, my friend. Corruption is the result of money. Remove money and politics from the equation and what are you left with? science and facts. We do not want to institute a so-called „absolute democracy“ as a lot of people seem to want. You see, democracy doesn’t work. People have a tendency to speak about things they actually don’t know anything about (rather like you’re doing right now), and this undermines any attempt at a functional democracy. We want to exclude opinions and beliefs from the system completely, you know, „rule“ the world based purely on fact. This is why I asked you to read through and try to understand the principles of RBE and the Zeitgeist movement. You don’t understand.
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  • Zehn Aktivistyes, this would end up in some sort of technologised and academic power building. this will end up in a mess. what we need is the balance with nature

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  • Zehn Aktivistto accomplish this, we need to go back to the peoples that preserved the way of living in harmony with nature and that is the indigenous way of life

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  • Zehn Aktivistthat will lead directly to harmony with nature and everything else is playing with fire

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  • Sigurd B. Stenseth

    ‎…which is exactly what we’re trying to achieve. Technology and nature are not opposites. Do not treat them as such. Technology shouldn’t be feared, but used. For the betterment of both humans and the planet in general. We have the technology to improve the lives of all beings on this planet, no matter whether they’re human, plant, animal, or anything else. To refrain from using technology to the planets advantage would be just as bad as actively opposing nature now, after we’ve damaged it for so many years…
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  • Marius Alexandertechnology and knowledge isnt wrong, you dont need to throw that out, then ur an idiot. But instead of the powers to be using it for warfare and maximizing profits ruining nature, they could use it solely for constructive and positive purposes. We dont need to tear down the system, we need to redistribute power, free the people and have a reform which benefits everyone. This is fair and not impossible.

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  • Marius AlexanderZehn, lol, you seen Avatar I suppose

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  • Marius Alexanderps. its very hard for me to stay totally serious, Im not academic ^^

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  • Zehn Aktivistsadly yes i did this to me

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  • Sigurd B. StensethWell, actually we sorta do need to tear down the system, but Zehn wants to refrain from building a new and better one in its place. Which is harmful and dumb.

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  • Zehn Aktivistcan you please stop with affronts, we dont want to build a new system, you want to

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  • Marius Alexanderreform and transformation is better. At least more accomplishable

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  • Sigurd B. Stenseththat was pretty much exactly what I just said.

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  • Zehn Aktivistthat is exactly the problem that i tell you, you do want a new system in its place, i want tribal rules and all technology and bigger structure than the size of a tribe of some hundred peoples destroyed…

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  • Zehn Aktivistyou want a massive supercomplex ruled by academic „science“ and technology

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  • Zehn Aktivisti want to destroy all technology and structures that are bigger as the size of tribe from some hundred ppl

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  • Zehn Aktivistand the first big structures to destroy are the monotheistic parties

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  • Marius AlexanderTribal rules? Zehn, I dont know how old you are but you need to see the Mad Max trilogy asap ^^

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  • Sigurd B. Stensethreform would help, but only for a while. Unless the capitalistic monetary system is removed, we won’t be able to stop corruption, greed and war. In this, I agree very much with the zeitgeist movement (I don’t agree with everything (but most of it))

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  • Zehn Aktivistcome on this goes in a direction that is very unreasonable marius

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  • Zehn Aktivisti think i explained all my views

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  • Sigurd B. Stensethand zehn, tribal rules are a huge step back. You would basically abolish all forms of progress? Like I said, we have the capability to make the world better for all its inhabitants. To not do that, and instead revert to an old system of „every man/tribe fends for themselves“ would be directly harmful.

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  • Sigurd B. Stensethnot ot mention that is completely unrealistic compared to an RBE

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  • Zehn Aktivisti just tell you the way to harmony with nature, you tell us on how to play with fire. I am not willing to look and do nothing while peopples play with our livelihood.

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  • Zehn Aktivistu have not reached the lowest levels of conscioussness as people, you can really not call this progress, its degenaration

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  • Zehn Aktivistit must be very very very harmfull to some parties

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  • Sigurd B. Stenseth

    It’s not „playing with fire“ when we know the consequences of everything we do. Please, don’t tell me you’re one of those „science is dangerous“ type of people. It is not something to be feared. The ancient humans feared fire at first. Then…Mehr anzeigen
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  • Marius Alexandertribes still have hierarchy and the same bullshit

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  • Zehn Aktivistdo moose harm the forest?

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  • Sigurd B. Stenseth‎^this.

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  • Marius Alexanderpeople are about to shift to the next level of consciousness, this is why things are happening in a way as to dumb down the youth and restrict access to information.

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  • Marius Alexander‎^^

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  • Zehn Aktivistgreat with 100 peoples, that is how communities are guided since 100 000 human history, that is how apes and primate communities are guided and under this guidance humanity lived on the this planet 100 000 years. now you want to stick with something that almost killed all life on earth in almost 2000 years good idea!

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  • Sigurd B. StensethWell, moose do not understand it. and as such they have the potential to harm it through ignorance.

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  • Zehn Aktivistthat we then call progress

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  • Zehn Aktivistno you are liying

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  • Zehn Aktivistmoose are not fucking dangerous to any forest

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  • Zehn Aktivistgo to the old man and tell him this

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  • Vegard Tzm BilsbakMoose don’t know anything about sustainability so they just might 😉

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  • Zehn Aktivisti also talk with himself no problem

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  • Vegard Tzm Bilsbakbe

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  • Marius Alexander‎*epic thread in progress

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  • Sigurd B. Stenseth

    Am I really? I at no point said they actually do harm the forest, did I? We are different in that we can understand it and act accordingly. If a moose were to accidentally start a forest fire, it would do nothing to put it out. If a human were to accidentally start a forest fire (of course depending upon the person) they would generally try to put it out, and then if they couldn’t they would tell someone who could (the fire service). This is what makes us different, among other things. We have empathy and we are social. We are curious and critical. We do not just accept things being the way they are, we try and improve it. I’m not saying we wouldn’t screw up along the way, but choosing to act on our fear and emotions instead of reason is, well, unreasonable.
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